Comments on: Has Obama “dropped the ball” on immigration? http://latinopoliticsblog.com/2009/09/27/has-obama-dropped-the-ball-on-immigration/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=has-obama-dropped-the-ball-on-immigration Where La Raza comes to discuss its leaders, where you can learn about issues in Latino politics. Fri, 27 Jan 2012 04:31:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: A “woe is me” piece by Ruben Navarrette http://latinopoliticsblog.com/2009/09/27/has-obama-dropped-the-ball-on-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-56225 A “woe is me” piece by Ruben Navarrette Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:17:05 +0000 http://latinopoliticsblog.com/?p=714#comment-56225 [...] sometimes think that Navarrette hits the nail on the head, and other times, he misses it. But a writer can be applauded or praised when some agree with him or criticized when others [...] [...] sometimes think that Navarrette hits the nail on the head, and other times, he misses it. But a writer can be applauded or praised when some agree with him or criticized when others [...]

]]> By: Michaelr http://latinopoliticsblog.com/2009/09/27/has-obama-dropped-the-ball-on-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-54076 Michaelr Sun, 11 Oct 2009 07:01:12 +0000 http://latinopoliticsblog.com/?p=714#comment-54076 More woe is me from Ruben Navarrette. Do you actually think immigration reform will occur when you have double digit unemployment? Employ U.S. citizens first, create economic stability, and then revamp immigration reform. But the Dream Act should be supported now, not later. More woe is me from Ruben Navarrette. Do you actually think immigration reform will occur when you have double digit unemployment? Employ U.S. citizens first, create economic stability, and then revamp immigration reform. But the Dream Act should be supported now, not later.

]]> By: Why Boycotting the Census will not force the Immigration Issue http://latinopoliticsblog.com/2009/09/27/has-obama-dropped-the-ball-on-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-53366 Why Boycotting the Census will not force the Immigration Issue Mon, 05 Oct 2009 02:11:54 +0000 http://latinopoliticsblog.com/?p=714#comment-53366 [...] per my previous post, I don’t think that we are going to have immigration reform before the Census is completed, [...] [...] per my previous post, I don’t think that we are going to have immigration reform before the Census is completed, [...]

]]> By: Anna http://latinopoliticsblog.com/2009/09/27/has-obama-dropped-the-ball-on-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-53313 Anna Sun, 04 Oct 2009 00:00:45 +0000 http://latinopoliticsblog.com/?p=714#comment-53313 Reyfeo, Obama has no intention of passing immigration reform. He might propose it, but he will do nothing to actually try to pass it. Latinos put Obama over the top in VA, IN, NC, etc. and not just the obvious states like Florida and New Mexico. He lost the majority of white voters, and not just in the South. If we stay home in four years, he loses. Reyfeo, Obama has no intention of passing immigration reform. He might propose it, but he will do nothing to actually try to pass it.

Latinos put Obama over the top in VA, IN, NC, etc. and not just the obvious states like Florida and New Mexico.

He lost the majority of white voters, and not just in the South. If we stay home in four years, he loses.

]]> By: El Cholo http://latinopoliticsblog.com/2009/09/27/has-obama-dropped-the-ball-on-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-53278 El Cholo Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:39:15 +0000 http://latinopoliticsblog.com/?p=714#comment-53278 More dribble from the blind, deaf, and stupid. More dribble from the blind, deaf, and stupid.

]]> By: Reyfeo http://latinopoliticsblog.com/2009/09/27/has-obama-dropped-the-ball-on-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-52958 Reyfeo Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:42:16 +0000 http://latinopoliticsblog.com/?p=714#comment-52958 Not solely on Obama losangeles'...just most of it. I see the POTUS as the leader of the nation...and since he has a Democratic majority in both houses, I don't understand how Obama can't get anything passed except exuberant spending bills, which no one can explain to someone as simple minded (admittedly stupid sometimes) as me, how we're going to pay for these things. If he had a Republican majority in Congress, I would clearly understand but that’s not the case. He left Health Care reform to Congress and you see how badly they screwed that up…he really needs to lead on immigration reform. He’s starting to show he can’t do that at all…leaving it to the legislative branch to figure it out what it is he wants isn’t working. That said, Obama campaigned on immigration reform and yet we have seen zero, nothing. He has time to rally support for the Olympics in Chicago, but just not immigration reform. Lets agree to disagree on whether any new administration can “fix” in one term what took years to create since I tend to believe he could (again, he has a majority Congress on his side), but to do so he needs to start something/anything now. Not solely on Obama losangeles’…just most of it. I see the POTUS as the leader of the nation…and since he has a Democratic majority in both houses, I don’t understand how Obama can’t get anything passed except exuberant spending bills, which no one can explain to someone as simple minded (admittedly stupid sometimes) as me, how we’re going to pay for these things. If he had a Republican majority in Congress, I would clearly understand but that’s not the case. He left Health Care reform to Congress and you see how badly they screwed that up…he really needs to lead on immigration reform. He’s starting to show he can’t do that at all…leaving it to the legislative branch to figure it out what it is he wants isn’t working.
That said, Obama campaigned on immigration reform and yet we have seen zero, nothing. He has time to rally support for the Olympics in Chicago, but just not immigration reform. Lets agree to disagree on whether any new administration can “fix” in one term what took years to create since I tend to believe he could (again, he has a majority Congress on his side), but to do so he needs to start something/anything now.

]]> By: losangelessoldadera http://latinopoliticsblog.com/2009/09/27/has-obama-dropped-the-ball-on-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-52933 losangelessoldadera Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:02:01 +0000 http://latinopoliticsblog.com/?p=714#comment-52933 To Reyfeo: You misread what I wrote. I was rationalizing nothing. I was merely trying to make a point about the extent of the problems that are presently facing the nation. It is unrealistic to expect one administration to "fix" the problems that took several years to create. As for the comment "how long before we let the last president go," I was suggesting that nothing is ahistorical. In order to understand the extent and severity of the problems, one must understand the events that created them. Lastly, I want reiterate my point about Congress. It is they who legislate, and it is they who have been unable to produce any viable policy on immigration, health care, or any other matter that is of importance to the average American citizen. It is easy to blame Obama, and I admittedly have my own issues with some of his actions. However, if it makes sense for you to lay the blame solely on Obama, then so be it. To Reyfeo: You misread what I wrote. I was rationalizing nothing. I was merely trying to make a point about the extent of the problems that are presently facing the nation. It is unrealistic to expect one administration to “fix” the problems that took several years to create. As for the comment “how long before we let the last president go,” I was suggesting that nothing is ahistorical. In order to understand the extent and severity of the problems, one must understand the events that created them. Lastly, I want reiterate my point about Congress. It is they who legislate, and it is they who have been unable to produce any viable policy on immigration, health care, or any other matter that is of importance to the average American citizen. It is easy to blame Obama, and I admittedly have my own issues with some of his actions. However, if it makes sense for you to lay the blame solely on Obama, then so be it.

]]> By: Reyfeo http://latinopoliticsblog.com/2009/09/27/has-obama-dropped-the-ball-on-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-52902 Reyfeo Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:33:38 +0000 http://latinopoliticsblog.com/?p=714#comment-52902 That's rigth Anna...he's too busy paying back all the favors he used up to get to be POTUS (Olympics, TART Money etc....)...as usual we're at the end/back/bottom of the list. That’s rigth Anna…he’s too busy paying back all the favors he used up to get to be POTUS (Olympics, TART Money etc….)…as usual we’re at the end/back/bottom of the list.

]]> By: Anna http://latinopoliticsblog.com/2009/09/27/has-obama-dropped-the-ball-on-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-52873 Anna Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:09:47 +0000 http://latinopoliticsblog.com/?p=714#comment-52873 Obama has no intention of doing anything about immigration, Wall St, corruption, the economy, the public option or anything else. Most of us saw through him during the primaries. Too bad the rest of the party didn't. Obama has no intention of doing anything about immigration, Wall St, corruption, the economy, the public option or anything else. Most of us saw through him during the primaries. Too bad the rest of the party didn’t.

]]> By: Reyfeo http://latinopoliticsblog.com/2009/09/27/has-obama-dropped-the-ball-on-immigration/comment-page-1/#comment-52865 Reyfeo Wed, 30 Sep 2009 04:38:26 +0000 http://latinopoliticsblog.com/?p=714#comment-52865 Thats my point losanageless'...and I agree, Latino is a term to describe Mexican and or anyone of LATAM origin. We have no disagreement here. The point I was trying to make is it is a term conversely used to include Americans of Latino culture in the mix when talking about immigration reform. Also, how long before we let the last President go...I mean are we really going to throw this new Administrations failures to act on (pick a topic) on the last preseident. Honestly, I think he owns this now, after all it is now almost a year into this "new" quagmire, and failure to act on immigration , under POTUS Obama. And why are we to settle for a peace-meal appraoch? Again, I say, this POTUS has taken on everything (becuase he claims he can solve/spend-on more than one thing at a time) and yet you rationalize it with a quagmire and a peace-meal approach, why? You certainly wouldn't give GWB the same slack, would you? Thats my point losanageless’…and I agree, Latino is a term to describe Mexican and or anyone of LATAM origin. We have no disagreement here. The point I was trying to make is it is a term conversely used to include Americans of Latino culture in the mix when talking about immigration reform.

Also, how long before we let the last President go…I mean are we really going to throw this new Administrations failures to act on (pick a topic) on the last preseident. Honestly, I think he owns this now, after all it is now almost a year into this “new” quagmire, and failure to act on immigration , under POTUS Obama.

And why are we to settle for a peace-meal appraoch? Again, I say, this POTUS has taken on everything (becuase he claims he can solve/spend-on more than one thing at a time) and yet you rationalize it with a quagmire and a peace-meal approach, why? You certainly wouldn’t give GWB the same slack, would you?

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