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	<title>Comments on: Seneca on Obama Administration&#8217;s Latin Foreign Policy Woes</title>
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		<title>By: Hillary&#8217;s Debacle as Honduran Democracy is Served Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hillary&#8217;s Debacle as Honduran Democracy is Served Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] issue that has been of recent concern on this blog is the coup and pending elections in Honduras tomorrow. It has been five months since the de facto rulers of Honduras have ousted the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Women’s Rights &#38; Reproductive Freedoms Under Attack with Honduran Coup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Women’s Rights &#38; Reproductive Freedoms Under Attack with Honduran Coup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] issue that has been brought to my attention regarding the recent posts that Seneca has contributed about the Honduras issue is basic women’s rights. This issue should be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] issue that has been brought to my attention regarding the recent posts that Seneca has contributed about the Honduras issue is basic women’s rights. This issue should be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mixed Signals on Honduras &#38; Clinton&#8217;s position</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mixed Signals on Honduras &#38; Clinton&#8217;s position</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] latest blog post where he describes the current situation in Honduras has garnered much attention. Some commenters [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary didn&#039;t cost us health care. Bill put Hillary in charge of it, but you don&#039;t blame him, or the Speaker of the House or the Senate Majority Leader. Just Hillary. Amazing.

Has it ever occurred to you that Democrats might not pass much legislation when the GOP controls the House and the Senate?  I&#039;m sure Dubya was just waiting to sign one of Hillary&#039;s bills into law to give her something to use to run for the White House.  SIGH...

If you look at Hillary&#039;s voting record, you will see that she has always voted to support women&#039;s rights. Furthermore, she has NOT always voted with Bush. In fact, Obama has voted with Bush more than Hillary. He voted for  FISA and to extend The Patriot Act. Why are you making things up? 

And you blame Hillary for accepting Secretary of State, despite what you say are conflicts of interest, but you don&#039;t condemn Obama for offering her the job. He vetted her and he hired her.

And I don&#039;t believe that if she won it would have been a continuation of the Bush white House. That was Obama spin. He needed to link Clinton and Bush to position himself as a &quot;change.&quot; He also needed to make Hillary look old, rich and privileged to undermine the historic nature of her campaign. 

If you had bothered to do some research, you would know that Obama has not changed Bush&#039;s policies to a significant degree. 

Wall St. is still unregulated and stealing everybody&#039;s money, driving more states into insolvency. We are still in Iraq and about to escalate the war in Afghanistan. There is no change in Latin American policy. And of course now there is a rollback of women&#039;s rights.

Funny, I don&#039;t see a president Hillary Clinton letting the Catholic Bishops or Stupak tell her what to do. 

What we have with Obama is a change in tone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary didn&#8217;t cost us health care. Bill put Hillary in charge of it, but you don&#8217;t blame him, or the Speaker of the House or the Senate Majority Leader. Just Hillary. Amazing.</p>
<p>Has it ever occurred to you that Democrats might not pass much legislation when the GOP controls the House and the Senate?  I&#8217;m sure Dubya was just waiting to sign one of Hillary&#8217;s bills into law to give her something to use to run for the White House.  SIGH&#8230;</p>
<p>If you look at Hillary&#8217;s voting record, you will see that she has always voted to support women&#8217;s rights. Furthermore, she has NOT always voted with Bush. In fact, Obama has voted with Bush more than Hillary. He voted for  FISA and to extend The Patriot Act. Why are you making things up? </p>
<p>And you blame Hillary for accepting Secretary of State, despite what you say are conflicts of interest, but you don&#8217;t condemn Obama for offering her the job. He vetted her and he hired her.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t believe that if she won it would have been a continuation of the Bush white House. That was Obama spin. He needed to link Clinton and Bush to position himself as a &#8220;change.&#8221; He also needed to make Hillary look old, rich and privileged to undermine the historic nature of her campaign. </p>
<p>If you had bothered to do some research, you would know that Obama has not changed Bush&#8217;s policies to a significant degree. </p>
<p>Wall St. is still unregulated and stealing everybody&#8217;s money, driving more states into insolvency. We are still in Iraq and about to escalate the war in Afghanistan. There is no change in Latin American policy. And of course now there is a rollback of women&#8217;s rights.</p>
<p>Funny, I don&#8217;t see a president Hillary Clinton letting the Catholic Bishops or Stupak tell her what to do. </p>
<p>What we have with Obama is a change in tone.</p>
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		<title>By: El Cholo</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Cholo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary Clinton cost Bill Clinton/Senator Ted Kennedy/and the American people a healthcare bill in 1993-1994.  Hillary Clinton did very little legislation work (20 bills, 15 of which we naming parks and post offices) the six years she was in the U.S. Senate.  Although, that’s more legislative work than Loretta Sanchez and Linda Sanchez combined during that same time period.  Despite her feminist views, Hillary has done very little politically supporting and implementing any feminist agenda, or protecting Rowe versus Wade from any legislative amendments, or attacks.  Hillary Clinton voted with the GWB White House on every political issue, even when she was critical of the Iraqi war at the same time.  Hillary mismanaged her Presidential campaign for the Democratic nomination, hired Mark Penn as an advisor, had difficulty keeping a lid on her collusive labor relations record with Wal-Mart, Tyson Foods, and Monsanto, and had several implosions with key staff infighting and trouble with campaign funding.  Hillary Clinton accepted a federal cabinet position as Secretary of State, despite her collusive personal and political relationships with Lanny Davis, Mark Penn, and Tommy Boggs, all A list public relations lobbyists representing Fortune 100 multinational corporations and undemocratic governments of repressive sovereign nations.  If Hillary Clinton had been elected President of the United States in 2008, it would have been a continuation of the Bush White House policies, with more scandal, more dysfunctional political relationships, and even more secrecy.   We’re all blind to certain degrees, but it’s horrible to add stupid to all that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary Clinton cost Bill Clinton/Senator Ted Kennedy/and the American people a healthcare bill in 1993-1994.  Hillary Clinton did very little legislation work (20 bills, 15 of which we naming parks and post offices) the six years she was in the U.S. Senate.  Although, that’s more legislative work than Loretta Sanchez and Linda Sanchez combined during that same time period.  Despite her feminist views, Hillary has done very little politically supporting and implementing any feminist agenda, or protecting Rowe versus Wade from any legislative amendments, or attacks.  Hillary Clinton voted with the GWB White House on every political issue, even when she was critical of the Iraqi war at the same time.  Hillary mismanaged her Presidential campaign for the Democratic nomination, hired Mark Penn as an advisor, had difficulty keeping a lid on her collusive labor relations record with Wal-Mart, Tyson Foods, and Monsanto, and had several implosions with key staff infighting and trouble with campaign funding.  Hillary Clinton accepted a federal cabinet position as Secretary of State, despite her collusive personal and political relationships with Lanny Davis, Mark Penn, and Tommy Boggs, all A list public relations lobbyists representing Fortune 100 multinational corporations and undemocratic governments of repressive sovereign nations.  If Hillary Clinton had been elected President of the United States in 2008, it would have been a continuation of the Bush White House policies, with more scandal, more dysfunctional political relationships, and even more secrecy.   We’re all blind to certain degrees, but it’s horrible to add stupid to all that.</p>
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		<title>By: india blanca</title>
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		<dc:creator>india blanca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Hillary should have stayed in the Senate where she could have championed those issues that are close to her heart, such as health care. But she took on a job where she has displayed no real leadership skills, as well as lack of judgement and an incapacity to be an effective diplomat. Her handling of the Honduran debacle not only shows her conservatism but more importantly her lack of commitment to the concept of democratization. She appears to have simply caved in to too many global issues on her plate and the inclination to get rid of those &quot; unimportant&quot; ones, like the pesky Honduran coup  ...especially when it is supported by all those &quot;white English speaking elite gringo handler Hondurans&quot; with whom our government officials seem to be more at ease...never mind if they are an essential ingredient of a regime which forcefully gets rid of a democratically eleted president and turns to violent repression of the population such as murder, rape, arbitrary arrests and intimidation in order to shut up their clamor to defend their rights, including the President they chose to lead the nation. A president who might not be the one WE would chose but who the Honduran people feel understands their plight...instead of a religious and empressarial elite whose interests are far different from those of the majority in Honduras, a country of 7 million where 70% live in poverty and 40% of those struggle to survive while they live in extreme poverty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Hillary should have stayed in the Senate where she could have championed those issues that are close to her heart, such as health care. But she took on a job where she has displayed no real leadership skills, as well as lack of judgement and an incapacity to be an effective diplomat. Her handling of the Honduran debacle not only shows her conservatism but more importantly her lack of commitment to the concept of democratization. She appears to have simply caved in to too many global issues on her plate and the inclination to get rid of those &#8221; unimportant&#8221; ones, like the pesky Honduran coup  &#8230;especially when it is supported by all those &#8220;white English speaking elite gringo handler Hondurans&#8221; with whom our government officials seem to be more at ease&#8230;never mind if they are an essential ingredient of a regime which forcefully gets rid of a democratically eleted president and turns to violent repression of the population such as murder, rape, arbitrary arrests and intimidation in order to shut up their clamor to defend their rights, including the President they chose to lead the nation. A president who might not be the one WE would chose but who the Honduran people feel understands their plight&#8230;instead of a religious and empressarial elite whose interests are far different from those of the majority in Honduras, a country of 7 million where 70% live in poverty and 40% of those struggle to survive while they live in extreme poverty.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think it would have better if Hillary had won. Yes, all politicians are tied to corporate interests, but at least Hillary isn&#039;t passive. No way would Stupak have been in the health care bill if she were President.  She wouldn&#039;t be silent on civil rights or gay rights either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think it would have better if Hillary had won. Yes, all politicians are tied to corporate interests, but at least Hillary isn&#8217;t passive. No way would Stupak have been in the health care bill if she were President.  She wouldn&#8217;t be silent on civil rights or gay rights either.</p>
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		<title>By: webmaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>webmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Because corporations, you know the people Obama really works for, stand to lose money if Zelaya is returned to power. Corporations want leaders in Latin America who will let them plunder the nation’s resources and exploit their people as cheap labor.&quot;

I think that all heads of state work for business sectors to varying degrees, but Hillary Clinton is running this State Department. 

A lot of times, I hear people who complain about Obama say, &quot;If only Hillary had won.&quot; Well, we are witnessing how Hillary operates as a leader with her State Department management. She is just as embedded to the business interests as Obama probably is. 
Maybe Latin America isn&#039;t a priority for Hillary Clinton either. She&#039;s the one that so many Latinos were hyped about, and I do think that how she used Hilda Solis in this situation is very disingenuous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Because corporations, you know the people Obama really works for, stand to lose money if Zelaya is returned to power. Corporations want leaders in Latin America who will let them plunder the nation’s resources and exploit their people as cheap labor.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that all heads of state work for business sectors to varying degrees, but Hillary Clinton is running this State Department. </p>
<p>A lot of times, I hear people who complain about Obama say, &#8220;If only Hillary had won.&#8221; Well, we are witnessing how Hillary operates as a leader with her State Department management. She is just as embedded to the business interests as Obama probably is.<br />
Maybe Latin America isn&#8217;t a priority for Hillary Clinton either. She&#8217;s the one that so many Latinos were hyped about, and I do think that how she used Hilda Solis in this situation is very disingenuous.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;Anna, why would Obama let this mess in Honduras fester as is?&quot;

Because corporations, you know the people Obama really works for, stand to lose money if Zelaya is returned to power. Corporations want leaders in Latin America who will let them plunder the nation&#039;s resources and exploit their people as cheap labor. Like Mexico. Zelaya was moving in the other direction, toward taking control of his nation&#039;s natural resources, just as the much of South America is doing. 

Lanny Davis, a close Clinton ally, is a lobbyist for the corporations who supported the coup. 

I don&#039;t know why anybody thinks that this is not also Obama&#039;s foreign policy. Hillary is not some rogue operator. He appointed her after fully vetting her political and business connections. Latin America is not a priority for Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;Anna, why would Obama let this mess in Honduras fester as is?&#8221;</p>
<p>Because corporations, you know the people Obama really works for, stand to lose money if Zelaya is returned to power. Corporations want leaders in Latin America who will let them plunder the nation&#8217;s resources and exploit their people as cheap labor. Like Mexico. Zelaya was moving in the other direction, toward taking control of his nation&#8217;s natural resources, just as the much of South America is doing. </p>
<p>Lanny Davis, a close Clinton ally, is a lobbyist for the corporations who supported the coup. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why anybody thinks that this is not also Obama&#8217;s foreign policy. Hillary is not some rogue operator. He appointed her after fully vetting her political and business connections. Latin America is not a priority for Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Michaelr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michaelr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because this twisted situation in Honduras isn’t a part of Obama’s foreign policy strategy.  Those who claim that every department of the U.S. government moves in the precise direction as dictated by the White House are quite naïve.   This is Hillary Clinton’s political baggage shifting strategy to Plan B, Plan C, and Plan D.  Her relationships with Lanny Davis, Mark Penn, and Tommy Boggs are always going to undermine any positive humanitarian endeavors she may try to achieve abroad as Secretary of State.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because this twisted situation in Honduras isn’t a part of Obama’s foreign policy strategy.  Those who claim that every department of the U.S. government moves in the precise direction as dictated by the White House are quite naïve.   This is Hillary Clinton’s political baggage shifting strategy to Plan B, Plan C, and Plan D.  Her relationships with Lanny Davis, Mark Penn, and Tommy Boggs are always going to undermine any positive humanitarian endeavors she may try to achieve abroad as Secretary of State.</p>
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