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	<title>Comments on: Use of Fear in Political Discourse: Do Latinos recognize it?</title>
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		<title>By: Rocio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 07:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a shame Mr. Obama.! The lowest political move I&#039;ve ever seen. How ignorant you think latino people are? You are taking advantage of our fears as immigrants for your own political gain. 
How low of you trying to make us believe that the color of our skin is the problem. You are dividing us!
God knows what kind of sick game you are playing bowing to an Islamic monarch. You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.  
Stand up against the person who is trying to make this great nation like  the ones we escape from  in the first place. 

A house divided against itself cannot stand. 
Abraham Lincoln</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a shame Mr. Obama.! The lowest political move I&#8217;ve ever seen. How ignorant you think latino people are? You are taking advantage of our fears as immigrants for your own political gain.<br />
How low of you trying to make us believe that the color of our skin is the problem. You are dividing us!<br />
God knows what kind of sick game you are playing bowing to an Islamic monarch. You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.<br />
Stand up against the person who is trying to make this great nation like  the ones we escape from  in the first place. </p>
<p>A house divided against itself cannot stand.<br />
Abraham Lincoln</p>
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		<title>By: Cockroach People</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cockroach People</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fear is a natural instinct.  Parent&#039;s worry about their kids so they tell them they can&#039;t do something because something bad might happen.  This can be overdone and can be completely irrational (e.g. you shouldn&#039;t marry a Black guy because...fill in the blank)  especially with parents of the smothering sort.  But that doesn&#039;t mean that in some cases the bad thing isn&#039;t a real threat.

Plato&#039;s Allegory was less about fear of the unknown and more about the tendency for people to accept whatever they see in front of them rather than using the gift of reason to contemplate the divine truth.  For that reason, he thought that hyper-rational philosophers should rule.

The problem is that most people don&#039;t take time to rationally plot their way through every aspect of life (though on some level they make rational calculations in the short-term), taking into consideration the long-term effects of any one decision. Thus the philosopher or the brujo are needed to help guide the pack, clan, city-state, etc. There are natural hierarchies among humans, like it or not.  Does that mean that the smartest or strongest have a right to be in charge and the rest of us must obey them?  No. But most of us look for people who have lived more or studied more than we have to help us make sense of our path ahead.  Some of us take what is useful and discard the rest and others reject everything or accept everything.  People of the cloth or even those of the political persuasion can be good or bad and can focus on fear or not--that&#039;s just like any one else with authority.  Clergy are not essentially fear mongers because they sometimes invoke fear any more than my mother is a fear monger because she warned me not to join a gang because I might end up in prison or dead.  She was wrong when she tried to get my sister not to date a black guy because my Dad would flip!  But it&#039;s not essentially who she is.

If it weren&#039;t from some very bold people of the cloth--and even a few politicians--many of the rights movements you mention would have never happened.  Who but  a Cesar Chavez, a Dr. King, a Gandhi, a Dorothy Day, a Jacques Maritain, a Malcom X, even a Tijerina (though he did use fear hear and there too); could have commanded the respect and influence to move such movements to some measure of success?  Sure the grassroots where pushing some of them to act, but even behind the scenes clergy and leaders had prominent roles even while some of their brethren were part of the problem (think the intended audience of the letter from Birmingham Jail).

Yes the Orwellian Pigs are among our leaders, but that does not mean fear per se is an absolute evil.  We should fear the and lament the loss of our civil and human rights to corporate interests.  We should fear the failure of our public education system.  We should fear the absence of true dialogue in many parts of the blogosphere and in the news media as you point out (fear mongering by the way, but good fear mongering ;).  We should fear the everlasting wars in the Middle East...I think that&#039;s enough preaching--I better shut up.  I&#039;m afraid someone might accuse me of being a brujo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fear is a natural instinct.  Parent&#8217;s worry about their kids so they tell them they can&#8217;t do something because something bad might happen.  This can be overdone and can be completely irrational (e.g. you shouldn&#8217;t marry a Black guy because&#8230;fill in the blank)  especially with parents of the smothering sort.  But that doesn&#8217;t mean that in some cases the bad thing isn&#8217;t a real threat.</p>
<p>Plato&#8217;s Allegory was less about fear of the unknown and more about the tendency for people to accept whatever they see in front of them rather than using the gift of reason to contemplate the divine truth.  For that reason, he thought that hyper-rational philosophers should rule.</p>
<p>The problem is that most people don&#8217;t take time to rationally plot their way through every aspect of life (though on some level they make rational calculations in the short-term), taking into consideration the long-term effects of any one decision. Thus the philosopher or the brujo are needed to help guide the pack, clan, city-state, etc. There are natural hierarchies among humans, like it or not.  Does that mean that the smartest or strongest have a right to be in charge and the rest of us must obey them?  No. But most of us look for people who have lived more or studied more than we have to help us make sense of our path ahead.  Some of us take what is useful and discard the rest and others reject everything or accept everything.  People of the cloth or even those of the political persuasion can be good or bad and can focus on fear or not&#8211;that&#8217;s just like any one else with authority.  Clergy are not essentially fear mongers because they sometimes invoke fear any more than my mother is a fear monger because she warned me not to join a gang because I might end up in prison or dead.  She was wrong when she tried to get my sister not to date a black guy because my Dad would flip!  But it&#8217;s not essentially who she is.</p>
<p>If it weren&#8217;t from some very bold people of the cloth&#8211;and even a few politicians&#8211;many of the rights movements you mention would have never happened.  Who but  a Cesar Chavez, a Dr. King, a Gandhi, a Dorothy Day, a Jacques Maritain, a Malcom X, even a Tijerina (though he did use fear hear and there too); could have commanded the respect and influence to move such movements to some measure of success?  Sure the grassroots where pushing some of them to act, but even behind the scenes clergy and leaders had prominent roles even while some of their brethren were part of the problem (think the intended audience of the letter from Birmingham Jail).</p>
<p>Yes the Orwellian Pigs are among our leaders, but that does not mean fear per se is an absolute evil.  We should fear the and lament the loss of our civil and human rights to corporate interests.  We should fear the failure of our public education system.  We should fear the absence of true dialogue in many parts of the blogosphere and in the news media as you point out (fear mongering by the way, but good fear mongering <img src='http://latinopoliticsblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  We should fear the everlasting wars in the Middle East&#8230;I think that&#8217;s enough preaching&#8211;I better shut up.  I&#8217;m afraid someone might accuse me of being a brujo.</p>
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		<title>By: Reyfeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reyfeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...soooo, Al Gore qualifies since he&#039;s out scaring the crap out of any one stupid enough to believe the world is doomed to our stupid American polluting ways?

This article itself is an example of fear mongering against conservative, Christian,  anti-abortion, ‘marriage is between a man and woman’, good American citizens who believe you should get in line and come here legally if you want to join the American club.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;soooo, Al Gore qualifies since he&#8217;s out scaring the crap out of any one stupid enough to believe the world is doomed to our stupid American polluting ways?</p>
<p>This article itself is an example of fear mongering against conservative, Christian,  anti-abortion, ‘marriage is between a man and woman’, good American citizens who believe you should get in line and come here legally if you want to join the American club.</p>
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		<title>By: BettyM</title>
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		<dc:creator>BettyM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article – makes me wonder how many people realize that they have made and are making  decisions based on fear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article – makes me wonder how many people realize that they have made and are making  decisions based on fear.</p>
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		<title>By: moreno</title>
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		<dc:creator>moreno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Talk show radio has become the medium of choice in the fear-mongering attempts. The political right with its nationalistic, ethnocentric penchants is in the forefront.&quot;

This is so true, and sadly, the people who listen to AM talk radio seem to be predisposed to not wanting to expand their minds with books, travel or sharing new experiences, so they are easily conned by these nationalistic, ranting con men. The Rush Limbaughs and Lou Dobbs types still have radio shows, and they prey on the fear of people who don&#039;t get out much or who don&#039;t engage with people who are different from them. 

Fear mongering is a powerful tool. We also saw what happened with the gay marriage debate in some of the states where gays were allowed to marry, and life went on a usual. But fear kicked in when people starting talking about gay families with school children, etc. and it worked, as anti-gay marriage measures were passed. 

Now with Latinos, it is going to be the usual narrative about how we all have a dozen kids, how we supposedly take jobs away from American citizens, while many of us are already citizens and treated like we aren&#039;t. Or that we don&#039;t want to learn English, even though evidence suggests that we assimilate at the same rate as other groups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Talk show radio has become the medium of choice in the fear-mongering attempts. The political right with its nationalistic, ethnocentric penchants is in the forefront.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is so true, and sadly, the people who listen to AM talk radio seem to be predisposed to not wanting to expand their minds with books, travel or sharing new experiences, so they are easily conned by these nationalistic, ranting con men. The Rush Limbaughs and Lou Dobbs types still have radio shows, and they prey on the fear of people who don&#8217;t get out much or who don&#8217;t engage with people who are different from them. </p>
<p>Fear mongering is a powerful tool. We also saw what happened with the gay marriage debate in some of the states where gays were allowed to marry, and life went on a usual. But fear kicked in when people starting talking about gay families with school children, etc. and it worked, as anti-gay marriage measures were passed. </p>
<p>Now with Latinos, it is going to be the usual narrative about how we all have a dozen kids, how we supposedly take jobs away from American citizens, while many of us are already citizens and treated like we aren&#8217;t. Or that we don&#8217;t want to learn English, even though evidence suggests that we assimilate at the same rate as other groups.</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier Cardenas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xavier Cardenas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah but then again &quot;if the shoe fits&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah but then again &#8220;if the shoe fits&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: ChL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that many Latinos do recognize and realize that fear is being used to demonize them. However, we also play into the fear itself by sometimes meeting those lowered expectations. For instance, many feel that Latino youth are involved in gangs, crime, etc., and some try to perpetuate that kind of culture or the appearance of it even if they aren&#039;t into crime per se.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that many Latinos do recognize and realize that fear is being used to demonize them. However, we also play into the fear itself by sometimes meeting those lowered expectations. For instance, many feel that Latino youth are involved in gangs, crime, etc., and some try to perpetuate that kind of culture or the appearance of it even if they aren&#8217;t into crime per se.</p>
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		<title>By: india blanca</title>
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		<dc:creator>india blanca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual Seneca brings to the forefront a thought provoking issue that we must take time to analyze and ponder....especially when fear mongering is used to denigrate ethnicities and inflamed racist rhetoric something that has become too common post 9/11...as Latinos we must be able to identify fear mongering...I believe the best way to accomplish this is by staying well informed and by developing our own criteria...this will allow us to fight back any attempt to pull us into the vortex of mass hysteria pro or anti any subject matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual Seneca brings to the forefront a thought provoking issue that we must take time to analyze and ponder&#8230;.especially when fear mongering is used to denigrate ethnicities and inflamed racist rhetoric something that has become too common post 9/11&#8230;as Latinos we must be able to identify fear mongering&#8230;I believe the best way to accomplish this is by staying well informed and by developing our own criteria&#8230;this will allow us to fight back any attempt to pull us into the vortex of mass hysteria pro or anti any subject matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and weakening long-term bond markets and cataclysmic climate change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and weakening long-term bond markets and cataclysmic climate change.</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fear fear, and homelessness, and prison time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fear fear, and homelessness, and prison time.</p>
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